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Note, however, that with the ceremonial '''‹uy›''' and suppositional '''‹ats›''' the '''e''' does not go away, since the resulting syllable would be illegal, so '''zolenuyeke''' and '''zolenatseke'''.
 
Note, however, that with the ceremonial '''‹uy›''' and suppositional '''‹ats›''' the '''e''' does not go away, since the resulting syllable would be illegal, so '''zolenuyeke''' and '''zolenatseke'''.
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== Topical Position ==
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''Reported by wm.annis, September 8 2011 ([http://forum.learnnavi.org/language-updates/topical-position/ forum]).''
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I asked him if my strong suspicion about the location of the topical was correct.
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:Quote from: Karyu Pawl
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:Ngaru tìyawr. The topical comes at the head of its clause. Poetic syntax, of course, is little indication of the rules for ordinary prose. "I thee wed" and a million other examples in English. ...
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:I see where the impulse comes from to free the topical from clause-initial position, because on occasion I've been tempted to do that myself. But I've (almost) always found ways around the problem that don't violate that restriction.

Revision as of 22:52, 8 September 2011

The Na'vi language canon is the complete collection of information about the Na'vi language provided by authoritative sources, namely Paul Frommer and the creators of Avatar (James Cameron and Twentieth Century Fox).

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This page includes information dated April 2011 - December 2011. To access past information please see:

Kawtseng, tsapo and prefixes

Reported by Plumps, May 18, 2011 ([1]).

Ma frapo,
a few minor confirmations.
I asked Dr Frommer about his blessing for kawtseng ‘nowhere’ (with the expected double negation) and tsapo ‘that one’ (with the expected case endings). His reply:
Quote from: K. Pawl, 13 May
Kawtseng and tsapo are fine. Go ahead and announce them, and I’ll try to include them in some of my example sentences as well.
and regarding stress:
Quote from: K. Pawl, 18 May
It’s KAW.tseng and TSA.po.
Also, Inspirata’s question about how prefixes behave that ‘collide’ with the same vowel got me intrigued and I asked about that.
Quote from: K. Pawl, 18 May
As for your other question, the general rule is that when two identical vowels come together, they coalesce into one. So in your examples, the words become fìlva, tsatan, and fnekxan respectively. Of course if the noun begins with a glottal stop, this doesn’t happen. For example, ‘this spiral’ is fì’ìheyu.

Rangal with Tsnì

Reported by Tirea Aean, August 18 2011 (forum).

On Aug 18, 2011 2:25 PM, Paul Frommer wrote:
Kaltxì ma TA!
Rangal is intransitive, so Oe rangal tsnì is the better of the two. But if it's first person ("I wish that . . ."), the best way is just to use the adverb nìrangal.
Ngeyä 'upxaret oel toleiel. Irayo, ma 'eylan! Tì'eyngit fpasye' ye'rìn.
ta P.

Affective Obligation (zenke)

Reported by wm.anns, September 5 2011 (forum).

We know that the modal for "negative obligation" is zenke, as in nga zenke kivä you must not go (Canon#Zenke). It is pretty obviously derived from zene ke. But I was curious how to cope with the 2nd position infixes, since I was uncomfortable with the idea that the ke element would get an infix. So I asked. Here's what Pawl said about it,

Quote from: Karyu Pawl
Zenke. Interesting question. I went back and forth on this one. But since the word is clearly from original *zeneke, there would probably also have been a form *zenängeke with a second-position infix. This one too would evolve to lose the e by syncope:
That is: *zenängeke > zenängke. [Stress remains in the first syllable.]
In the same way: *zolenängeke > zolenängke, *zayeneieke > zayeneike, etc.

Note, however, that with the ceremonial ‹uy› and suppositional ‹ats› the e does not go away, since the resulting syllable would be illegal, so zolenuyeke and zolenatseke.

Topical Position

Reported by wm.annis, September 8 2011 (forum).

I asked him if my strong suspicion about the location of the topical was correct.

Quote from: Karyu Pawl
Ngaru tìyawr. The topical comes at the head of its clause. Poetic syntax, of course, is little indication of the rules for ordinary prose. "I thee wed" and a million other examples in English. ...
I see where the impulse comes from to free the topical from clause-initial position, because on occasion I've been tempted to do that myself. But I've (almost) always found ways around the problem that don't violate that restriction.