Difference between revisions of "L E P/Spatial relations"

From Learn Na'vi Wiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search
m (Protected "L E P/Spatial relations": This was the old LEP ([Edit=Allow only administrators] (indefinite) [Move=Allow only administrators] (indefinite)))
 
(9 intermediate revisions by 3 users not shown)
Line 4: Line 4:
  
 
{{lep|n=left / right
 
{{lep|n=left / right
|priority=A
+
|priority=C
|comments=Is orientation based on the speaker or the listener? that is, if you have s.t. on your right cheek, it it your right or mine? When someone talks about two people that stood side by side.
+
|comments=Is orientation based on the speaker or the listener? that is, if you have s.t. on your right cheek, it it your right or mine? When someone talks about two people that stood side by side. Does a narrator use "left" an "right" from the view of the subject or object or from an external point(in most cases his own position) wich might be the same over several sentences? This depends a lot on cultural axioms!
Does a narrator use "left" an "right" from the view of the subject or object or from an external point(in most cases his own position) wich might be the same over several sentences? This depends a lot on cultural axioms!
 
 
}}
 
}}
  
Line 17: Line 16:
 
|priority=B
 
|priority=B
 
|comments=cardinal directions, left/right, to/from Hometree or some sacred spot, or some combination? if s.o. uses gestures in retelling an event, can you tell where they were standing at the time just from that?
 
|comments=cardinal directions, left/right, to/from Hometree or some sacred spot, or some combination? if s.o. uses gestures in retelling an event, can you tell where they were standing at the time just from that?
 +
}}
 +
 +
{{lep|n=direction
 +
|priority=B
 +
|ex1=Which way did it go?
 +
|ex2=Which direction to I do I turn.
 +
|comments=There may be some idiom for this?
 
}}
 
}}
  
Line 24: Line 30:
 
}}
 
}}
  
Korean tight fit vs. mere contact.
+
{{lep|n=firm 'at, on, in'
 
+
|priority=C
{{lep|n=right, righthand
+
|comments=Korean tight fit vs. mere contact.
|priority=A
 
|ex1=Sit right of the Tsahik.
 
}}
 
 
 
{{lep|n=left
 
|priority=A
 
 
}}
 
}}
  
Line 38: Line 38:
 
|priority=C
 
|priority=C
 
|comments=Will Na'vi even have these cardinal directions?  On the other hand, they do seem ubiquitous for Humans, often relating to the movements of the sun.
 
|comments=Will Na'vi even have these cardinal directions?  On the other hand, they do seem ubiquitous for Humans, often relating to the movements of the sun.
}}
 
 
{{lep|n=inside
 
|priority=A
 
|comments=Opposite of '''wrrpa'''.
 
 
}}
 
}}
  
Line 60: Line 55:
 
}}
 
}}
  
== Local Adpositions ==
+
{{lep|n=vertical, up-and-down
 
+
|priority=C
{{lep|n=behind
+
|comments=This and ''horizontal'' seem very useful for '''sute a makto ayikranit'''. Might make most sense as adverbs and limit them to motion verbs.
|priority=A
 
|ex1=(E) The Nantang is behind this tree.
 
|ex2=(D) Der Viperwolf ist hinter diesem Baum.
 
|ex3=(L) ***lupus post arborem est.
 
|comments=location; but also the movement "to the place behind of" is required
 
 
}}
 
}}
  
{{lep|n=around (movement)
+
{{lep|n=horizontal, side-to-side
|priority=A
+
|priority=C
|ex1=(E) He runs around the tree.
 
|ex2=(D) Er rennt um den Baum herum.
 
|ex3=(L) Circa/circum arborem currit.
 
 
}}
 
}}
  
{{lep|n=at, close to
+
== Local Adpositions ==
|priority=B
 
|ex1=Jake is sitting at the campfire.
 
}}
 
 
 
{{lep|n=into
 
|priority=B
 
|ex1=He walks into the forest.
 
}}
 
 
 
{{lep|n=through
 
|priority=A
 
|ex1=He came to us through the forest.
 
|comments=Might intersect with "between," a sort of dual "through."
 
}}
 
  
 
{{lep|n=across from
 
{{lep|n=across from
Line 97: Line 70:
 
|ex1=He came to us across from the ocean.
 
|ex1=He came to us across from the ocean.
 
|comments=
 
|comments=
}}
 
 
{{lep|n=down, down from
 
|priority=A
 
|ex1=(E) He jumps down/from? the tree.
 
|ex2=(D) Er springt vom Baum herunter.
 
|ex3=(L) De arbore saltat.
 
}}
 
 
{{lep|n=above
 
|priority=A
 
|ex1=These rocks float above the clouds!
 
}}
 
 
{{lep|n=around, past
 
|priority=A
 
|ex1=They went around the forest.
 
|ex2=(D) Sie gingen um den Wald herum. = Sie umgingen den Wald.
 
|ex3=(L) Praeter silvam ierunt.
 
|comments="movement, passing by a place, not entering it, but moving around it"
 
 
}}
 
}}
  
Line 137: Line 90:
 
|ex2=the segments of a chain holds together because the intersect each other
 
|ex2=the segments of a chain holds together because the intersect each other
 
|comments=
 
|comments=
 +
}}
 +
 +
{{lep|n=beyond, past
 +
|priority=B
 +
|ex1=Go past the tree over there.
 +
|ex2=They have walked beyond that hill.
 
}}
 
}}

Latest revision as of 02:07, 9 July 2015

Lexical Expansion Project

Unless you are a designated editor, please do not edit this page. You may comment in the discussion page, or make your comments in the forum. This page is the working space of the editors.


Concepts

left / right (C)

Is orientation based on the speaker or the listener? that is, if you have s.t. on your right cheek, it it your right or mine? When someone talks about two people that stood side by side. Does a narrator use "left" an "right" from the view of the subject or object or from an external point(in most cases his own position) wich might be the same over several sentences? This depends a lot on cultural axioms!

spatial awareness (C)

what effect does living in a 3-D world have on spatial vocab? if you're upside-down and I say "look up", which direction is it?

special directions (B)

cardinal directions, left/right, to/from Hometree or some sacred spot, or some combination? if s.o. uses gestures in retelling an event, can you tell where they were standing at the time just from that?

direction (B)

Which way did it go?
Which direction to I do I turn.
There may be some idiom for this?

height (B)

"height" is both tallness and altitude in English. any reason for it to be in Na'vi? (In German "tallness" is "Größe" (= 'bigness'), but "altitude" is "Höhe" (= height).

firm 'at, on, in' (C)

Korean tight fit vs. mere contact.

north, south, east, west (C)

Will Na'vi even have these cardinal directions? On the other hand, they do seem ubiquitous for Humans, often relating to the movements of the sun.

contain, container (B)

constructible from "inside"?

high (A)

discrete word referring to stature?

low (A)

discrete word referring to stature?

vertical, up-and-down (C)

This and horizontal seem very useful for sute a makto ayikranit. Might make most sense as adverbs and limit them to motion verbs.

horizontal, side-to-side (C)

Local Adpositions

across from (A)

He came to us across from the ocean.

shape following (C)

"parallel things; a twiner plant that grows on a trunk; a path that follows a stream; a fruit that is hold by leaves that form a goblet; clothes that fit well" [1]

the inner side of a seperating (relativly thin) shape (C)

behind the wall
under the cloth
walk between two rows of guards
wich side is meant depends heavily on the context

overlapping/intersect (C)

the mine was expanded into our territory
the segments of a chain holds together because the intersect each other

beyond, past (B)

Go past the tree over there.
They have walked beyond that hill.