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Lexical Expansion Project

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is orientation based on the speaker or the listener? that is, if you have s.t. on your right cheek, it it your right or mine? does 'in front' and 'behind' depend on whether you're looking up or down at s.t.? what effect does living in a 3-D world have on spatial vocab? if you're upside-down and I say "look up", which direction is it?

do we have cardinal directions, left/right, to/from Hometree or some sacred spot, or some combination? if s.o. uses gestures in retelling an event, can you tell where they were standing at the time just from that?

are the same demonstratives used for visible and non-visible objects?

adpositions: there should probably be some not-too-difficult ways in which they do not map one-to-one with English. "On" meaning "on a surface", for example, even if on the underside, vs. "on top of", etc, but perhaps more alien. What if the object is upside down, does the locative adp. change?

"height" is both tallness and altitude in English. any reason for it to be in Na'vi?

a word for 'across from', 'the opposite bank/shore', etc.

Korean tight fit vs. mere contact.

right, righthand (A)

Sit right of the Tsahik.

left (A)

north, south, east, west (C)

Will Na'vi even have these cardinal directions? On the other hand, they do seem ubiquitous for Humans, often relating to the movements of the sun.

inside (A)

Opposite of wrrpa.

contain, container (B)

constructible from "inside"?

high (A)

discrete word referring to stature?

low (A)

discrete word referring to stature?

Local Adpositions

behind (A)

(E) The Nantang is behind this tree.
(D) Der Viperwolf ist hinter diesem Baum.
(L) ***lupus post arborem est.
location; but also the movement "to the place behind of" is required

around (movement) (A)

(E) He runs around the tree.
(D) Er rennt um den Baum herum.
(L) Circa/circum arborem currit.

at, close to (B)

Jake is sitting at the campfire.

into (B)

He walks into the forest.

through (A)

He came to us through the forest.
Might intersect with "between," a sort of dual "through."

down, down from (A)

(E) He jumps down/from? the tree.
(D) Er springt vom Baum herunter.
(L) De arbore saltat.

above (A)

These rocks float above the clouds!

around, past (A)

They went around the forest.
(D) Sie gingen um den Wald herum. = Sie umgingen den Wald.
(L) Praeter silvam ierunt.
"movement, passing by a place, not entering it, but moving around it"

shape following (C)

"parallel things; a twiner plant that grows on a trunk; a path that follows a stream; a fruit that is hold by leaves that form a goblet; clothes that fit well" [1]