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2010-03-29

update 2

source: Forum: Some new words — posted by Na'rìghawnu (14:43 UTC)

words

• fìtxon [fɪ.ˈtʼon] (Adv) tonight.
• txonam [tʼo.ˈnam] (Adv) last night.
• txonay [tʼo.ˈnaj] (Adv) tomorrow night.
• trray [tr̩ː.ˈaj] (Adv) tomorrow.
• sekrr [ˈsɛ.kr̩ː] (N) present.

• vur [vuɾ] (N) story.
• tìpängkxo [tɪ.pæŋ.ˈkʼo] (N) conversation, discussion.
• tìsrese’a [tɪ.ˈsɾɛ.sɛ.Ɂa] (N) prophecy.
• nawmtu [ˈnawm.tu] (N) great person.
• txantstew [ˈtʼan.ʦtεw] (N) hero.
• tstew [ʦtεw] (Adj) brave.
• fkew [fkεw] (Adj) mighty.

• nguway [ˈŋu.waj] (N) howl, viperwolf cry.

update 1

source: Forum: <asy> with ke and nga — quoted by: roger (06:39 UTC)

construction

Not added yet.

2010-03-28

source: Forum: Landscape words — posted by Lance R. Casey (15:01 UTC)

Words

• ramunong [ɾa.ˈmu.noŋ] (N) well.

  (as in Ayvitrayä Ramunong Well of Souls)

• Swotulu [ˈswo.tulu] (NP) Sacred River.

  (given as just n., but is obviously a name)

compound

• payfya [ˈpaj.fja] (N) stream.

  (pay-fya'o)

• pxawpa [ˈpʼaw.pa] (N) perimeter, circumference, border.

  (pxaw-pa'o)

• txampay [tʼam.ˈpaj] (N) sea, ocean.

  (txan-pay)

The rest are, I believe, new roots

• ’ora [ˈɁo.ɾa] (N) lake.
• ekxan [ɛ.ˈkʼan] (N) barricade, obstruction.
• tsim [ʦim] (N) source.
• tsray [ʦɾaj] (N) village.
• txayo [ˈtʼa.jo] (N) field, open terrain.

  (note syllabication)

• ukxo [u.ˈkʼo] (Adj) dry.
• wew [wɛw] (Adj) cold.

2010-03-27

source: Forum: Body-related poetry, part 2 — posted by Mirri (12:31 UTC)

Words

• ngäng [ŋæŋ] (N) stomach.
• reypay [ˈɾɛj.paj] (N) blood.
• tsopì [ˈʦo.pɪ] (N) lung.
• venu [ˈvε.nu] (N) foot.
• venzek [ˈvεn.zεk] (N) toe.

2010-03-26

source: Forum: Body-related words — posted by Mirri (14:59 UTC)

Words

• ta’leng [ˈta.Ɂlɛŋ] (N) skin.
• tsyokx [ʦjokʼ] (N) hand.

2010-03-25

update 2

source: Forum: new vocab: face, head, neck & tanhì! :) — posted by tsrräfkxätu (16:14 UTC)

Words

• flew [flɛw] (N) throat.
• kxa [kʼa] (N) mouth.
• nikre [ˈnik.ɾɛ] (N) hair.
• pewn [pɛwn] (N) neck.
• re’o [ˈɾɛ.Ɂo] (N) head.
• sre’ [sɾɛɁ] (N) tooth.
• tanhì [tan.ˈhɪ] (N) bioluminescent freckle, star.
• tsuksìm [ˈʦuk.sɪm] (N) chin.
• key [kɛj] (N) face.

update 1

source: Forum: if vs whether - 'ftxey...fuke' — quoted by Will Txankamuse (01:22 UTC)

construction

Not added yet.

2010-03-24

update 2

source: Forum: About Subordination — quoted by Taronyu (21:29 UTC)

construction

Not added yet.

update 1

source: Forum: declension of nouns ending in diphthongs; fì- and tsa- — quoted by wm.annis (21:19 UTC)

Not added yet.

2010-03-23

update 2

source: Forum: Re: A long answer to a quick question — quoted by roger (07:37 UTC)

Paul said, "Ngaru tìyawr, lu kxeyey. Ngaytxoa. Eyawra lì'u lu tìpawmìri. Sempul lì'fyayä harmahaw."

• ngaytxoa [ŋaj.tʼo.a] (Idiom) forgive me.

  "Forgive me" as an interjection.

Assumed:

• tìyawr correctness.

  tì- + eyawr

• ngaru tìyawr you are corrct, you are right.

update 1

source: Forum: misc. answers — quoted by roger (07:17 UTC)

various

• kll- [kl̩ː] (root word) ground.
• kll·fro’ [kl̩ː.ˈfɾoɁ] (V) be responsible.
• infixing stressed syllabic consonants

  frrfen + ‹er› → *f‹er›rrfen → frrfen

  plltxe + ‹ol› → *p‹ol›lltxe → poltxe

• fìtxon [fɪ.ˈtʼon] (Adv) tonight.
• txll’u [tʼl̩ːɁu] (N) hookagourd.
• discussion about diphthong vs. V+C

  “VCV is to syllabify as V.CV rather than VC.V”

2010-03-22

update 4

source: Forum: Just a few interesting little words. — posted by omängum fra'uti (21:45 UTC)

Words

• lesar [lε.ˈsaɾ] (Adj) useful.

  fìtìkangkem layu lesar nìtxan frapor

  (stress guessed following other le- constructs)

• tse [ʦε] (Idiom) well... (Intj.)

  Tse... zene pivlltxe san pxìm tsafya lu sìk

• skxom [skʼom] (N) chance, oppertunity.

  pamrel sayi trray krr a skxom latsu oeru

• ayupxareo [aj.u.ˈpʼa.ɾɛ.o] (Pron) some messages.

  example of -o

  "Tsakem kop krrnekx."

  over "Tsa'u kop krrnekx"

  nìfya’o letrrtrr

  "in-manner ordinary"

  compound adverbial phrase

update 3

source: Forum: Re: A long answer to a quick question — quoted by: wm.annis (18:24 UTC)

colloquial, informal

• "Ngey 'upxareri irayo. (As you probably know, dropping the -ä on the genitive pronouns is colloquial and informal.)" — Karyu Pawl

update 2

source: Forum: A long answer to a quick question — quoted by: Ftiafpi (17:48 UTC)

pronunciation

• oe

  “two syllables (‘oh-eh’) and sometimes one (‘weh’)”

  • formal speech: oeru – 3 full syllables
  • honorific style: oheru – definitely 3
  • •••••

word

• tìoeyktìng [tɪ.o.ˈɛjk.tɪŋ] (N) explanation.

update 1

source:

• Forum: Why is this night... — posted by: wm.annis (02:03 UTC)
• External: whyisthisnight.com

• fkxen [fkʼɛn] (N) vegetable (food).
• syä’ä [ˈsjæ.Ɂæ] (Adj) bitter.
• yemfpay si [jɛm.ˈfpaj si] (V) dip (into a liquid).
• yemfpay [jɛm.ˈfpaj] (N) dipping, immersion (into a liquid).
• keng [kɛŋ] (Adv) even. (ex. didn't even try)
• ’awlo [ˈɁaw.lo] (Adv) once.
• melo [ˈmɛ.lo] (Adv) twice.
• *-lo [lo] (M) multiplicative numeral suffix.

  (once, twice, thrice, etc.)

• heyn [hɛjn] (V) sit.
• nìpxim [nɪ.ˈpʼim] (Adv) erectly, uprightly.
• pxim [pʼim] (Adj) erect, upright.
• tuvon [ˈtu.von] (V) lean.
• nìfya’o [nɪ.ˈfja.Ɂo] (Adv) in a manner.
• letrrtrr [le.ˈtr̩ː.tr̩ː] (Adj) ordinary.
• nì’eoio [nɪ.ˈɁe.o.i.o] (Adv) ceremoniously.
• ’eoio [ˈɁe.o.i.o] (Adj) cerimonious.
• rìk [rɪk] (N) leaf.
• lerìk [le.ˈrɪk] (Adj) leafy.

2010-03-18

source: Forum: Genitive case refinement; declension of tsaw — posted by wm.annis (02:28 UTC)

definition

• geitive ending

  "After i, u, and o, it’s just ä, not yä." (the genitive of words ending in vowels)

• third person inanimate cases

  tseyä

  tsari

tsaw, tsal, tsat, tsar(u)

2010-03-16

update 2

source: Forum: A couple more examples of <awm> (and the word for PAST!) — posted by Keylstxatsmen (08:13 UTC)

Words

• nìawnomum [nɪ.aw.ˈno.mum] (Adv) as you know, as is known.
• nìzawnong [nɪ.ˈzaw.noŋ] (Adv) safely.

  nì + z‹awn›ong

• ftawnemkrr [ftaw.ˈnɛm.kr̩ː] (N) past.

  ft‹awn›em + krr

update 1

source: Forum: Words: some new, some made clear — posted by wm.annis (00:46 UTC)

Words

• pamrel [pam.ˈɾɛl] (N) writing.

• pamrel si [pam.ˈɾɛl si] (V) write.

• tutan [tu.ˈtan] (N) male (person).

• nìayoeng [naj.ˈweŋ] (adv.) like us, as we do.

  (pronounced as nayweng)

• nìtam [nɪ.ˈtam] (Adv) "enough.

  (after an adjective?)

• äie [æ.ˈi.ɛ] (N) vision (spiritual).

• yol [jol] (Adj) short (of time).

  NOTE NOTE NOTE — the definition of this given in the ASG is backwards!

• sran [sɾan] "yeah", a shortened version of srane (conv.?)

• weyn [wɛjn] (V) draw, illustrate.

• fìtrr [fɪ.ˈtr̩ː] (Adv) today.

• fratrr [fɾa.ˈtr̩ː] (Adv) every day.

2010-03-15

source: Forum: A collection — quoted by wm.annis (00:59 UTC)

various

• -o [o] (M) indefinite pronoun suffix.
• ketuwongo [ˈkɛ.tu.woŋ.o] (N) some alien.

  some-alien

  “Txopu rä’ä si, lu ketuwongo nì’aw.”

• ultxa·run [ul.ˈtʼa.ɾun] (V) encounter, meet by chance.
• ultxa si hu [ul.ˈtʼa si hu] (V) meet with s.o. intentionally.

• nang

  always sentence-final

• mì

  like en in Spanish

  either ‘in’ or ‘on’

• txal [tʼal] (N) back (body part).

• nìrangal [nɪ.ˈɾaŋ.al] (?) I wish..., Oh that....

  “I wish” or “Oh that ...”

  followed by the present imperfective subjunctive ‹irv› for present counterfactuals or the present perfective subjunctive ‹ilv› for past counterfactuals.

• rangal [ˈɾaŋ.al] (V) wish.

• ‹ìsy› and ‹asy›

  intentional future

  determination; future ... like “going to”-fut.??

  pìsyeng oe ngar

• txepvi [ˈtʼɛp.vi] (N) spark.
• -vi [vi] (M) spawn of s.t. bigger.

  -vi

  used loosely for the spawn of s.t. bigger

  so sparks are the children of the fire.

  (Cf. also Na’vi!)

• nitram [nit.ˈɾam] (Adj) happy.

  = lefpom “for people”

• ’efu + ADJ

  for internal states (happy, sad, hot, cold, hungry, thirsty, . . .)

  as in Eng. “I feel cold.”

• tok

  transitive verb

  to be in a place is to occupy that place and thereby change its nature.

With krr, txan is the opposite of yol. Cf.: Yola krr, txana krr, ke transten.
“It doesn’t matter how long it takes” (a Moat line that I don’t think made it to the final cut).

• tengkrr + ‹er› (IPFV)

  indicate simultaneous action, “she ran away laughing”

• fewi [ˈfɛ.wi] (V) chase.

• stä’nì [ˈstæɁ.nɪ] (V) catch.

• ultxarun + ‹ol› (PFV)

  ultxarolun (V)

• “Don’t forget ke along with kawkrr.”

2010-03-14

source: Forum: more grammatical tidbits — quoted by roger (updated) (21:48 UTC)

various

Word Class

• -o – indefinite pronouns
• ’uo [Ɂu.o] (Pron) something.
• tuteo [tu.tɛ.o] (Pron) somebody.
• tsengo [ʦɛŋ.o] (Pron) somewhere.

Words

• holpxaype [hol.ˈpʼaj.pe] (Pron) how many (alternative form: polpxay).
• polpxay [pol.ˈpʼaj] (Pron) how many (alternative form: holpxaype).

  derived from holpxay (number), hol (few), pxay (many)

• hìmtxam [hɪm.ˈtʼan] (N) amount.

  derived from txan (much, great quantity), hìm (a little, small quantity)

• hìm [hɪm] (Adj) small(in quantity), a little.
• hìmtxampe [hɪm.ˈtʼan.pe] (Pron) how much (alternative form: pìmtxam).
• pìmtxan [pɪm.ˈtʼan] (Pron) how much (alternative form: hìmtxampe).

2010-03-13

update 2

source: Forum: more grammatical tidbits — quoted by (21:48 UTC)

Words

• ngian [ˈŋi.an] (Adv) however.
• skepek [ˈskɛ.pɛk] formal.

  (stress not confirmed; taken from the film) ADJ?

• hufwa [hu.ˈfwa] (Conj) although.
• tup [tup] (Conj) instead of, rather than.

update 1

source: Forum: A new participle infix: ‹awn› — quoted by wm.annis (00:41 UTC)

Infix

• ‹awn›

  passive participle

2010-03-12

update 4

source: Forum: many earths — quoted by omängum fra'uti (22:33 UTC)

definition

• no lenition with ’rr or ’ll

  ay’Rrta, ro ’Rrta

• ro ’Rrta

  at Earth

update 3

source: Forum: spatial words — quoted by roger (21:22 UTC)

Words

• pa’o [ˈpa.Ɂo]

  (N) side?

• fäpa [ˈfæ.pa] (N) top.
• kllpa [ˈkl̩ː.pa] (N) bottom.
• mìfa [mɪ.fa] (N) inside; (Adv) inside.

  (either stress)

• wrrpa [wr̩ː.pa] (N) outside; (Adv) outside.
• nefä [nɛ.ˈfæ] (Adv) down (direction).

  like nekll down

• zapxì [za.ˈpʼɪ] (N) front (front part or section).
• käpxì [kä.ˈpʼɪ] (N) rear (rear part or section).
• käsatseng [kä.ˈsa.ʦɛŋ] (Adv) out there.

update 2

source: Forum: verb for write — quoted by Ftiafpi (15:13 UTC)

Words

• pamrel si

  write

• peng

  (can be) transitiv

update 1

source: Forum: updates / anticipated confirmations — quoted by roger (00:06 UTC)

various

Words

• ’u [Ɂu] (N) thing (plural: ayu). lexical class?

• lì’upe [lɪ.ˈɁu.pe] (Pron) what (word, utterance) (alternative form: pelì’u).
• pelì’u [pe.ˈlɪ.Ɂu] (Pron) what (word, utterance) (alternative form: lì’upe).

• fratseng [ˈfra.ʦɛŋ] (Adv) everywhere. lexical class?

• tsafya [ˈʦa.fja] (Adv) that way, like that. lexical class?

• frato [ˈfra.to] (M) comparative marker: than all, superlative (most, -est). lexical class?

  confirmed as "than all", the superlative (most, -est) equivalent of to

Word Class – Ordinal numerals

• -ve [ve] (M) ordinal numeral suffix.

  like ’awve

  long pxeyve, volve

  short muve, tsìve, puve, kive

  normal ’awveve, mrrve

Word Class – Multiplicative numerals

• -lie [li.e] (M) multiplicative numeral suffix.
• ’awlie [Ɂaw.ˈli.e] (Adj) once.

  further definitions not confirmed

definition

• plural of ’u

  only ayu possible

2010-03-11

source: Forum: all adpositions — quoted by roger (03:00 UTC)

Adpositions

without lenition äo below eo before, in front of (place) io above uo behind fa with (by means of) ftu from (direction) [irregular "ftu sat" with the word "tsa" 'that'] hu with (accompaniment) ka across kip among fkip up among kxamlä through (via the middle of) [note that it does not cause lenition despite the fact that its component ilä does] lok close to [also a verb 'to approach'] luke without maw after (time) mìkam between mungwrr except ne to (direction) nemfa into pxaw around sìn on, onto (?) [question mark in the original, evidently not yet decided] ta from (various uses) takip from among tafkip from up among teri about, concerning vay up to

causing lenition fpi for (the benefit or sake of) ìlä by, via, following [stressed on either syllable] mì in ro at sre before (time) wä against (as in: fight against)

2010-03-07

source: Forum: luke kxu - without harm — quoted by roger (06:48 UTC)

Words

• kxu

  harm

• luke

  without ADP-

more stuff may need to be added here

2010-03-03

source: Forum: Good luck with this one! — quoted by Prrton (02:05 UTC)

construction

• Good luck with (with this/that)

  [whatever needs the luck]-ri/ìri ngaru lrrtok!

  [whatever needs the luck]-ri/ìri lrrtok ngar!

  [whatever needs the luck]-ri/ìri ngaru lrrtok sivi Nawma Sa’nok! (If the lottery winnings are at stake!)