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2010-03-29

update 2

source: Forum: Some new wordsposted by Na'rìghawnu (14:43 UTC)

words
  • txon [fɪ.ˈtʼon] (Adv) tonight.
  • txonam [tʼo.ˈnam] (Adv) last night.
  • txonay [tʼo.ˈnaj] (Adv) tomorrow night.
  • trray [tr̩ː.ˈaj] (Adv) tomorrow.
  • sekrr [ˈsɛ.kr̩ː] (N) present.
  • vur [vuɾ] (N) story.
  • tìpängkxo [tɪ.pæŋ.ˈkʼo] (N) conversation, discussion.
  • srese’a [tɪ.ˈsɾɛ.sɛ.ʔa] (N) prophecy.
  • nawmtu [ˈnawm.tu] (N) great person.
  • txantstew [ˈtʼan.ʦtεw] (N) hero.
  • tstew [ʦtεw] (Adj) brave.
  • fkew [fkεw] (Adj) mighty.
  • nguway [ˈŋu.waj] (N) howl, viperwolf cry.

update 1

source: Forum: <asy> with ke and ngaquoted by roger (06:39 UTC)

construction

Not added yet.

2010-03-28

source: Forum: Landscape wordsposted by Lance R. Casey (15:01 UTC)

words
  • ramunong [ɾa.ˈmu.noŋ] (N) well.
    (as in Ayvitrayä Ramunong Well of Souls)
  • Swotulu [ˈswo.tulu] (NP) Sacred River.
    (given as just n., but is obviously a name)
compound
  • payfya [ˈpaj.fja] (N) stream.
    (pay-fya'o)
  • pxawpa [ˈpʼaw.pa] (N) perimeter, circumference, border.
    (pxaw-pa'o)
  • txampay [tʼam.ˈpaj] (N) sea, ocean.
    (txan-pay)
The rest are, I believe, new roots
  • ’ora [ˈʔo.ɾa] (N) lake.
  • ekxan [ɛ.ˈkʼan] (N) barricade, obstruction.
  • tsim [ʦim] (N) source.
  • tsray [ʦɾaj] (N) village.
  • txayo [ˈtʼa.jo] (N) field, open terrain.
    (note syllabication)
  • ukxo [u.ˈkʼo] (Adj) dry.
  • wew [wɛw] (Adj) cold.

2010-03-27

source: Forum: Body-related poetry, part 2posted by Mirri (12:31 UTC)

words
  • ngäng [ŋæŋ] (N) stomach.
  • reypay [ˈɾɛj.paj] (N) blood.
  • tso [ˈʦo.pɪ] (N) lung.
  • venu [ˈvε.nu] (N) foot.
  • venzek [ˈvεn.zεk] (N) toe.

2010-03-26

source: Forum: Body-related wordsposted by Mirri (14:59 UTC)

words
  • ta’leng [ˈta.ʔlɛŋ] (N) skin.
  • tsyokx [ʦjokʼ] (N) hand.

2010-03-25

update 2

source: Forum: new vocab: face, head, neck & tanhì! :)posted by tsrräfkxätu (16:14 UTC)

words
  • flew [flɛw] (N) throat.
  • kxa [kʼa] (N) mouth.
  • nikre [ˈnik.ɾɛ] (N) hair.
  • pewn [pɛwn] (N) neck.
  • re’o [ˈɾɛ.ʔo] (N) head.
  • sre’ [sɾɛʔ] (N) tooth.
  • tan [tan.ˈhɪ] (N) bioluminescent freckle, star.
  • tsuksìm [ˈʦuk.sɪm] (N) chin.
  • key [kɛj] (N) face.

update 1

source: Forum: if vs whether - 'ftxey...fuke'quoted by Will Txankamuse (01:22 UTC)

construction

Not added yet.

2010-03-24

update 2

source: Forum: About Subordinationquoted by Taronyu (21:29 UTC)

construction

Not added yet.

word
  • tsatseng [ʦa.ʦɛŋ] (Adv) there, that place.

update 1

source: Forum: declension of nouns ending in diphthongs; fì- and tsa-quoted by wm.annis (21:19 UTC)

Not added yet.

2010-03-23

update 3

source: Forum: Re: A long answer to a quick questionquoted by roger (07:37 UTC)

Paul said, "Ngaru tìyawr, lu kxeyey. Ngaytxoa. Eyawra lì'u lu tìpawmìri. Sempul lì'fyayä harmahaw."
  • ngaytxoa [ŋaj.tʼo.a] (Idiom) forgive me.
    "Forgive me" as an interjection.
Assumed:
  • tìyawr correctness.
    tì- + eyawr
  • ngaru tìyawr you are corrct, you are right.

update 2

source: Forum: misc. answersquoted by roger (07:17 UTC)

various
  • kll- [kl̩ː] (root word) ground.
  • kll·fro’ [kl̩ː.ˈfɾoʔ] (V) be responsible.
  • infixing stressed syllabic consonants
    frrfen + ‹er› → *f‹er›rrfenfrrfen
    plltxe + ‹ol› → *p‹ol›lltxepoltxe
  • txon [fɪ.ˈtʼon] (Adv) tonight.
  • txll’u [tʼl̩ːʔu] (N) hookagourd.
  • discussion about diphthong vs. V+C
    “VCV is to syllabify as V.CV rather than VC.V”

update 1

source: Forum: Re: Why is this night...quoted by wm.annis (02:07 UTC)

nìfya’o comments
nì-[fya'o letrrtrr]

2010-03-22

update 4

source: Forum: Just a few interesting little words.posted by omängum fra'uti (21:45 UTC)

words
  • lesar [lε.ˈsaɾ] (Adj) useful.
    fìtìkangkem layu lesar nìtxan frapor
    (stress guessed following other le- constructs)
  • tse [ʦε] (Idiom) well... (Intj.)
    Tse... zene pivlltxe san pxìm tsafya lu sìk
  • skxom [skʼom] (N) chance, oppertunity.
    pamrel sayi trray krr a skxom latsu oeru
  • ayupxareo [aj.u.ˈpʼa.ɾɛ.o] (Pron) some messages.
    example of -o
    "Tsakem kop krrnekx."
    over "Tsa'u kop krrnekx"
    nìfya’o letrrtrr
    "in-manner ordinary"
    compound adverbial phrase

update 3

source: Forum: Re: A long answer to a quick questionquoted by wm.annis (18:24 UTC)

colloquial, informal
  • "Ngey 'upxareri irayo. (As you probably know, dropping the -ä on the genitive pronouns is colloquial and informal.)" — Karyu Pawl

update 2

source: Forum: A long answer to a quick questionquoted by Ftiafpi (17:48 UTC)

pronunciation
  • oe
    “two syllables (‘oh-eh’) and sometimes one (‘weh’)”
    • formal speech: oeru – 3 full syllables
    • honorific style: oheru – definitely 3
    • •••••
word
  • tìoeyktìng [tɪ.o.ˈɛjk.tɪŋ] (N) explanation.

update 1

source:

words
  • fkxen [fkʼɛn] (N) vegetable (food).
  • syä’ä [ˈsjæ.ʔæ] (Adj) bitter.
  • yemfpay si [jɛm.ˈfpaj si] (V) dip (into a liquid).
  • yemfpay [jɛm.ˈfpaj] (N) dipping, immersion (into a liquid).
  • keng [kɛŋ] (Adv) even. (ex. didn't even try)
  • ’awlo [ˈʔaw.lo] (Adv) once.
  • melo [ˈmɛ.lo] (Adv) twice.
  • *-lo [lo] (M) multiplicative numeral suffix.
    (once, twice, thrice, etc.)
  • heyn [hɛjn] (V) sit.
  • pxim [nɪ.ˈpʼim] (Adv) erectly, uprightly.
  • pxim [pʼim] (Adj) erect, upright.
  • tuvon [ˈtu.von] (V) lean.
  • fya’o [nɪ.ˈfja.ʔo] (Adv) in a manner.
  • letrrtrr [lɛ.ˈtr̩ː.tr̩ː] (Adj) ordinary.
  • ’eoio [nɪ.ˈʔɛ.o.i.o] (Adv) ceremoniously.
  • ’eoio [ˈʔɛ.o.i.o] (Adj) ceremonious.
  • rìk [ɾɪk] (N) leaf.
  • lerìk [lɛ.ˈɾɪk] (Adj) leafy.

2010-03-18

source: Forum: Genitive case refinement; declension of tsawposted by wm.annis (02:28 UTC)

definition
  • geitive ending
    "After i, u, and o, it’s just ä, not yä." (the genitive of words ending in vowels)
  • third person inanimate cases
    tseyä
    tsari
tsaw, tsal, tsat, tsar(u)

2010-03-16

update 2

source: Forum: A couple more examples of <awm> (and the word for PAST!)posted by Keylstxatsmen (08:13 UTC)

words
  • nìawnomum [nɪ.aw.ˈno.mum] (Adv) as you know, as is known.
  • zawnong [nɪ.ˈzaw.noŋ] (Adv) safely.
    nì + z‹awn›ong
  • ftawnemkrr [ftaw.ˈnɛm.kr̩ː] (N) past.
    ft‹awn›em + krr

update 1

source: Forum: Words: some new, some made clearposted by wm.annis (00:46 UTC)

words
  • pamrel [pam.ˈɾɛl] (N) writing.
  • pamrel si [pam.ˈɾɛl si] (V) write.
  • tutan [tu.ˈtan] (N) male (person).
  • nìayoeng [naj.ˈwɛŋ] (adv.) like us, as we do.
    (pronounced as nayweng)
  • tam [nɪ.ˈtam] (Adv) enough.
    (after an adjective?)
  • äie [æ.ˈi.ɛ] (N) vision (spiritual).
  • yol [jol] (Adj) short (of time).
    NOTE NOTE NOTE — the definition of this given in the ASG is backwards!
  • sran [sɾan] "yeah", a shortened version of srane (conv.?)
  • weyn [wɛjn] (V) draw, illustrate.
  • trr [fɪ.ˈtr̩ː] (Adv) today.
  • fratrr [fɾa.ˈtr̩ː] (Adv) every day.

2010-03-15

source: Forum: A collectionquoted by wm.annis (00:59 UTC)

various
  • -o [o] (M) indefinite pronoun suffix.
  • ketuwongo [ˈkɛ.tu.woŋ.o] (N) some alien.
    some-alien
    “Txopu rä’ä si, lu ketuwongo nì’aw.”
  • ultxa·run [ul.ˈtʼa.ɾun] (V) encounter, meet by chance.
  • ultxa si hu [ul.ˈtʼa si hu] (V) meet with s.o. intentionally.
  • nang
    always sentence-final
  • like en in Spanish
    either ‘in’ or ‘on’
  • txal [tʼal] (N) back (body part).
  • rangal [nɪ.ˈɾaŋ.al] (Adv) I wish..., Oh that....
    “I wish” or “Oh that ...”
    followed by the present imperfective subjunctive ‹irv› for present counterfactuals or the present perfective subjunctive ‹ilv› for past counterfactuals.
  • rangal [ˈɾaŋ.al] (V) wish.
  • ‹ìsy› and ‹asy›
    intentional future
    determination; future ... like “going to”-fut.??
    pìsyeng oe ngar
  • txepvi [ˈtʼɛp.vi] (N) spark.
  • -vi [vi] (M) spawn of s.t. bigger.
    -vi
    used loosely for the spawn of s.t. bigger
    so sparks are the children of the fire.
    (Cf. also Na’vi!)
  • nitram [nit.ˈɾam] (Adj) happy.
    = lefpom “for people”
  • ’efu + ADJ
    for internal states (happy, sad, hot, cold, hungry, thirsty, . . .)
    as in Eng. “I feel cold.”
  • tok
    transitive verb
    to be in a place is to occupy that place and thereby change its nature.
With krr, txan is the opposite of yol. Cf.: Yola krr, txana krr, ke transten.
“It doesn’t matter how long it takes” (a Moat line that I don’t think made it to the final cut).
  • tengkrr + ‹er› (IPFV)
    indicate simultaneous action, “she ran away laughing”
  • fewi [ˈfɛ.wi] (V) chase.
  • stä’ [ˈstæʔ.nɪ] (V) catch.
  • ultxarun + ‹ol› (PFV)
    ultxarolun (V)
  • “Don’t forget ke along with kawkrr.”

2010-03-14

source: Forum: more grammatical tidbitsquoted by roger (updated) (21:48 UTC)

various
word Class
  • -o – indefinite pronouns
  • ’uo [ʔu.o] (Pron) something.
  • tuteo [tu.tɛ.o] (Pron) somebody.
  • tsengo [ʦɛŋ.o] (Pron) somewhere.
words
  • holpxaype [hol.ˈpʼaj.pɛ] (Q) how many (alternative form: polpxay).
  • polpxay [pol.ˈpʼaj] (Q) how many (alternative form: holpxaype).
    derived from holpxay (number), hol (few), pxay (many)
  • hìmtxan [hɪm.ˈtʼan] (N) amount.
    derived from txan (much, great quantity), hìm (a little, small quantity)
  • hìm [hɪm] (Adj) small (in quantity), a little.
  • hìmtxampe [hɪm.ˈtʼam.pɛ] (Q) how much (alternative form: pìmtxan).
  • pìmtxan [pɪm.ˈtʼan] (Q) how much (alternative form: hìmtxampe).

2010-03-13

update 2

source: Forum: more grammatical tidbitsquoted by (21:48 UTC)

words
  • ngian [ŋi.ˈan] (Adv) however.
  • skepek [ˈskɛ.pɛk] (Adj) formal. stress not confirmed
    (stress not confirmed; taken from the film)
  • hufwa [hu.ˈfwa] (Conj) although.
  • tup [tup] (Conj) instead of, rather than.

update 1

source: Forum: A new participle infix: ‹awn›quoted by wm.annis (00:41 UTC)

infix
  • ‹awn›
    passive participle

2010-03-12

update 4

source: Forum: many earthsquoted by omängum fra'uti (22:33 UTC)

definition
  • no lenition with ’rr or ’ll
    ay’Rrta, ro ’Rrta
  • ro ’Rrta
    at Earth

update 3

source: Forum: spatial wordsquoted by roger (21:22 UTC)

words
  • pa’o [ˈpa.ʔo] (N) side.
  • pa [ˈfæ.pa] (N) top.
  • kllpa [ˈkl̩ː.pa] (N) bottom.
  • fa [ˈmɪ.fa] (or) fa [mɪ.ˈfa] (N) inside; (Adv) inside.
  • wrrpa [wr̩ː.pa] (N) outside; (Adv) outside.
  • ne [nɛ.ˈfæ] (Adv) up (direction).
    like nekll down
  • zapxì [za.ˈpʼɪ] (N) front (front part or section).
  • pxì [kæ.ˈpʼɪ] (N) rear (rear part or section).
  • satseng [kæ.ˈsa.ʦɛŋ] (Adv) out there.

update 2

source: Forum: verb for writequoted by Ftiafpi (15:13 UTC)

words
  • pamrel si
    write
  • peng
    (can be) transitiv

update 1

source: Forum: minor updates / anticipated confirmationsquoted by roger (00:06 UTC)

various
words
  • ’u [ʔu] (N) thing (plural: ayu). lexical class?
  • ’upe [lɪ.ˈʔu.pɛ] (Q) what (word, utterance) (alternative form: pelì’u).
  • pe’u [pɛ.ˈlɪ.ʔu] (Q) what (word, utterance) (alternative form: lì’upe).
  • fratseng [ˈfɾa.ʦɛŋ] (Adv) everywhere. lexical class?
  • tsafya [ˈʦa.fja] (Adv) that way, like that. lexical class?
  • frato [ˈfɾa.to] (M) comparative marker: than all, superlative (most, -est). lexical class?
    confirmed as "than all", the superlative (most, -est) equivalent of to
word Class – Ordinal numerals
  • -ve [vɛ] (M) ordinal numeral suffix.
    like ’awve
    long pxeyve, volve
    short muve, tsìve, puve, kive
    normal ’awveve, mrrve
word Class – Multiplicative numerals
  • -lie [li.ɛ] (M) multiplicative numeral suffix.
  • ’awlie [ʔaw.ˈli.ɛ] (Adj) once.
    further definitions not confirmed
definition
  • plural of ’u
    only ayu possible

2010-03-11

source: Forum: all adpositionsquoted by roger (03:00 UTC)

Adpositions
without lenition
äo below
eo before, in front of (place)
io above
uo behind
fa with (by means of)
ftu from (direction) [irregular "ftu sat" with the word "tsa" 'that']
hu with (accompaniment)
ka across
kip among
fkip up among
kxamlä through (via the middle of) [note that it does not cause lenition despite the fact that its component ilä does]
lok close to [also a verb 'to approach']
luke without
maw after (time)
mìkam between
mungwrr except
ne to (direction)
nemfa into
pxaw around
sìn on, onto (?) [question mark in the original, evidently not yet decided]
ta from (various uses)
takip from among
tafkip from up among
teri about, concerning
vay up to
causing lenition
fpi for (the benefit or sake of)
ìlä by, via, following [stressed on either syllable]
in
ro at
sre before (time)
against (as in: fight against)

2010-03-07

source: Forum: luke kxu - without harmquoted by roger (06:48 UTC)

words
  • kxu
    harm
  • luke
    without ADP-
  • pamrel si [pam.ˈɾɛl si] (Vin) write.
    For "write" let's use pamrel si rather than lì'rel si. The former seems more appropriate for an alphabetic orthography.
  • nìsìlpey [nɪ.sɪl.ˈpɛj] (Adv) hopefully. (?)
    Trrayri livu nìsìlpey aylrrtok atxan ta Eywa awngaru nìwotx.

2010-03-03

source: Forum: Good luck with this one!quoted by Prrton (02:05 UTC)

construction
  • Good luck with (with this/that)
    [whatever needs the luck]-ri/ìri ngaru lrrtok!
    [whatever needs the luck]-ri/ìri lrrtok ngar!
    [whatever needs the luck]-ri/ìri ngaru lrrtok sivi Nawma Sa’nok! (If the lottery winnings are at stake!)